
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee H" <lee@leeh.co.uk>
To: "General IRCD-Hybrid Discussion" <hybrid@lists.ircd-hybrid.org>
Subject: Re: FW: ircd-hybrid release notification - ircd-hybrid-7.1.1
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:58:28 +0000

> 
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 01:26:00AM -0800, Jack L. wrote:
> > > Is there a reason you decided to deliberately break compatibility with
> > > ircd-ratbox for remote XLINE?  I find it somewhat confusing, especially
> > > when I wrote a new syntax for these to go over ENCAP to avoid problems
> > > with munging the old protocol.
> > > > So now any temporary xlines from hyb7.1 -> ratbox will get converted to
> > > permanent, and because you ignored the ENCAP method which avoids this
> > > problem, temporary xlines from ratbox -> hyb7.1 are lost.
> >
> > Nobody decided to deliberately break compatibility or anything 
> > with ircd-ratbox. If you would have emailed us about your changes 
> > it would have been compatible. We can't read minds.
> 
> The same way you emailed about yours?
> 
> My changes were backward compatible, yours were not.  I didnt break
> compatibility with anything.  You altered an existing protocol, changing
> the meaning of a parameter.  I left the existing protocol alone, instead
> adding a new protocol *in addition* to the existing one to deal with
> temp xlines.
> 
> If anything, it shouldve been you emailing me.  The point is you didnt
> even bother (or care) to look at how this has been implemented elsewhere,
> or whether the changes you were making to an existing protocol would
> break ratbox, conveniently forgetting you got the remote xline protocol
> from ratbox in the first place.
> 
> > > If you want me to keep compatibility with hybrid, you have to play the
> > > same game and not deliberately break compatibility with ratbox.  Its
> > > your call.
> > >
> >
> > If you don't want things to break compatibility with ratbox, you 
> > should try emailing the list about your changes.
> 
> So, if I dont want hybrid to alter an existing protocol in such a way
> that breaks compatibility, I should email them, even though its them
> doing the changes to the protocol and I dont know about it until its
> already done?
> 
> On what planet does that make sense?
> 
> --
> Lee H
I'm not going to argue with you at 3AM, we both changed the protocol. From what you are saying, we could say that you deliberately broke our TBURST with the TB, but we changed our code to be compatible with ratbox's TB. We are both guilty of not notifying the other party of the changes. Can we stop making accusations and work together or do we have to do this hit or miss thing with you broke this and I broke that?



                              ~Jack~


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